1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,000 On this episode of Ghost Hunters. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,000 I saw a black mask shaped like a person run at me. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 When Taps tackles this family's case. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 I just started crying. I was in such shock. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,000 They're not looking for ghosts. 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,000 Is this thing some sort of an evil entity? 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Fantastic. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 They're hunting a demon. 9 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 It's just a girl. 10 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And Jason has a scrape with an inhuman entity. 11 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 I'm scratched. 12 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Can the team banish the evil that hides in the Leducer house? 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Please help me. 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Then Taps goes south of the Mason Dixon line 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,000 to investigate an historic compound. 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,000 They got a thermal hit, which was very much the shape of a person. 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 With a tragic past. 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 This is the cell where the gentleman was shot. 19 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,000 And Steve gets a shock in a building without power. 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,000 What? What's the matter? 21 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,620 The 22 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,000 Where is this thing? 23 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Right there. 24 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 Perfect. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 Nice under sink one. 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,000 It's Chris Williams. 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Yeah. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Hey Chris, what's up? 29 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,000 I actually have a case to run by UNJ. 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 It's a home. It's a residence. 31 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 It's very local. It's in Blackstone Mass. 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Blackstone Mass? That's nice and close. 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,000 There are stories about activity from family members. 34 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 And it wasn't until it turned aggressive that they felt they needed to call us. 35 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Well, let us finish this up and we'll come right down and talk to you. 36 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,000 Alright, bye. 37 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,000 What's up? 38 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,000 She's got a personal case in Blackstone Mass. 39 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,000 It's getting more and more aggressive. 40 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,000 It's getting to the point where they're getting very nervous. 41 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Alright. This is set to about 115 degrees. 42 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,000 So exactly where they want it. 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Alright, we're good. Let's get on it. 44 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Hey. 45 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,000 Hey. 46 00:01:58,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Alright, so what have we got? 47 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,000 This sounds a little bit pressing, huh? 48 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,000 It is actually. The owners are Roxanne and Paul and they have a 17 year old son named Gabe. 49 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 They've had a lot of things happen but they always kind of joked about it. 50 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Until recently, it's gotten really aggressive. 51 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,000 The worst thing that happened only happened a couple weeks ago and it was to their son. 52 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 He was in the basement. He looked to his side. 53 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 He saw this black mass that charged him and started tugging on his clothes. 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 He yelled for his parents. 55 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Parents came down. He was so scared they actually had to help him out of the basement. 56 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Really? 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 And that's not the first story I have. 58 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Roxanne was actually sitting on the couch and her husband was nearby on the computer 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:41,000 and something violently bumped the couch so hard that the sofa moved with her on it. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 These are some wild claims. Wild reports. 61 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Alright guys, let's do this. 62 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Hi, how are you? 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Hi, welcome. 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,000 Thank you, I'm Jason. 65 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,000 Roxanne. 66 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 As soon as we walked in, you could see that the family was right in the middle of renovation 67 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,000 and that always throws up a big red flag for us. 68 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Usually activity kicks up during renovation. 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Thank you very, very much for coming. 70 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:09,000 We're really hoping that maybe through tonight's investigation, TAPS can have some answers for us 71 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:14,000 as to what exactly is going on here and how we can handle it as a family. 72 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,000 Thanks for having us out. We've been having some issues over here. 73 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 My son and I have been here for four years but when we first moved in it wasn't too bad. 74 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Just like a few little things here and there, maybe a noise or two. 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:32,000 But of late, it just seems to be coming a little bit more physical and we're just a little unnerved being here right now. 76 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 We're going to do everything we can for you. 77 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,000 You want to give us a tour of the location, show us where you had these experiences. 78 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Sure, sure. I'd love to. 79 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 The living room here. 80 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 So what goes on in here? 81 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,000 In this room here, I was laying on the couch that's behind you. 82 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,000 I was watching TV. 83 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:53,000 My husband was sitting here working on the computer and all of a sudden the couch had been whacked. 84 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 And the whole thing moved. Nobody was there. 85 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,000 So I then turned to my husband and I said, did you hear that? 86 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,000 And he was like, yeah, what was it? 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 I just started crying. I was in just such shock from it all. 88 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,000 Sure. All right, where'd you know? 89 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,000 Actually, I'll take you into the basement, I guess. 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Okay. I'll see you. 91 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 All right, so what goes on down here? 92 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:18,000 I was upstairs in my son's bedroom and on the sudden we heard something whacked the washing machine. 93 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,000 So we all came downstairs. Nothing seemed to have fallen or anything. 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 And before that, my son actually had gotten touched down here. 95 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,000 And that was the main reason why I contacted you guys to see if you could help us. 96 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:37,000 I saw about a five foot black mass shaped like a person run at me. 97 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I kind of ducked down and my shirt was pulled from the back. 98 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 I turned a spun around quickly. Nothing was there anymore. 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 And I just stood there cowering in fear. 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,000 I couldn't move. 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:54,000 He was yelling for me and my husband because he was just frozen there in fright. 102 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 He was completely pale. 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,000 Okay. Where'd you next? 104 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,000 It'd be the second floor. 105 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:00,000 All right, FDF. 106 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Okay. 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 So what goes on in here? 108 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:09,000 I was cleaning up the house and my husband had told me that the light in the closet was on. 109 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,000 We have no idea how the light had gone on. 110 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,000 I hadn't put it on. He had not put it on. 111 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 The eave door was open as well. 112 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,000 And he had distinctly remembered closing it shut. 113 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 And it's not a very loose kind of door. 114 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,000 You have to give it some force to close it. 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Would it be okay if we went into the crawl space there? 116 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Oh, not a problem at all. Not a problem. 117 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,000 So when I lived alone before I got married, I lived alone here for about five or six years. 118 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:38,000 And I was awakened by the sound of a growl, very distinct, in my right ear. 119 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,000 Just like if it was something sitting right there. 120 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,000 And it just woke me out of a dead sleep. 121 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 It was quite strange. 122 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,000 You know, with the couch being whacked, the washing machine being whacked, my son being touched. 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 It's like, what's the next step here? 124 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,000 I don't know where to go with this. 125 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,000 And it's starting to concern me and my family. 126 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,000 All right. Well, what we're going to do from here, Roxanna, is go talk to the rest of the crew. 127 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Okay. 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,000 And, you know, start setting up the equipment and see what we figure out for you, okay? 129 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,000 I can't tell you. It means a lot to us, truly. 130 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Well, we'll do our thing. We've got to go. 131 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 All right, come on. We'll have to you. 132 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 Just got done with the tour with Roxanne. 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:19,000 And from her standpoint, where she hasn't really run into this before, it's too much for her. 134 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 And so we've got a lot of work to do here. 135 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And to make sure we can bring the paranormal possibilities here down to something she can wrap her brain around. 136 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 What he claimed happened is a big black mask came over here, moved past the light. 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,000 So we need to get a camera. 138 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,000 So we're going to go in one now and one coming this way. 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Right. Right there. That's good. 140 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,000 Hey, guys. 141 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Hey. 142 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,000 All right, big guy. 143 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,000 How's it going? 144 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,000 So we're good. 145 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Take a look at these hangouts and let us know if you like them. 146 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,000 But camera one is the master bedroom. 147 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,000 That's, you get the bed area, the foot area in the middle and the side there. 148 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,000 The second shot is the table here. 149 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 More importantly, remember she said that something that would be hitting against the side of that couch. 150 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,000 She also told us that closet type door closes. So we got all three in there. 151 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,000 The next camera is in the basement. 152 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:07,000 This is a shot shooting towards the washroom dryer where he said he saw that black mask. 153 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,000 And also where the loud bang came from that time too. 154 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Exactly. 155 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:17,000 Aside from our DVR cameras, we have a mini DV in his bedroom, the son's bedroom, and a mini DV in that first four year area. 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,000 Perfect. Okay. 157 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,000 All right. So we're good to go. 158 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Let's get digital corders to each of the cameras and let's go lights out. 159 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Sounds good. 160 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,000 All right. 161 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,000 Yeah, guys. Nice. Let's do this. 162 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 All right. Chris and Amy entering the basement. 163 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:39,000 This is where Gabe was when he was taking care of the cats. 164 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 And he just felt like he wasn't alone. 165 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 The light stemmed. It got cold. 166 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:51,000 He turned around and there's this dark mass of something that I guess charged at him. 167 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Geez. Should we do something to be pee working here? 168 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Yeah. 169 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:00,000 This is Amy and Chris in the basement of the LaDuce house. 170 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 My name is Chris and this is my friend Amy. We're just here to talk. 171 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,000 What was that? 172 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,000 That was... 173 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Did you hear the like a low, low noise? 174 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 I thought it was clear as day. I thought I heard a very low, gravelly voice. 175 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Does it sound like a voice to you? 176 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Yeah, it sounds like a voice. 177 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 And honestly, I couldn't make out what it was saying. 178 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 And then we played it back on the tape. 179 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,000 Please help me. 180 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Oh, please help me. 181 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:42,000 Amy and I were in the basement following up the reports of a dark mass. 182 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 So we started an EVP session. 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,000 What was that? 184 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,000 That was... 185 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 I thought I heard a very low, gravelly voice. 186 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,000 We played it back on the tape. 187 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,000 Please help me. 188 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,000 Please help me. 189 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,000 That's what it sounded like. As soon as I heard it, I'm like, what? 190 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 That's what it sounded like. 191 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,000 I thought it was a very low, gravelly voice. 192 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,000 I thought it was a very low, gravelly voice. 193 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Please help me. 194 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,000 It's really loud. 195 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 That's what it sounded like. As soon as I heard it, I'm like, what? 196 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:08,000 That's why I was like, what was that? 197 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:09,000 It was really loud. 198 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,000 I heard that too. 199 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 And to me, it sounded it was in the room with us. 200 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 You just asked us for help. 201 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 And this is it. 202 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,000 This is your chance to really tell us what you need help with. 203 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 What is this message that you're trying to get through? 204 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 Because we're here to help you. 205 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,000 We are here to help you. 206 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,000 What do you need from us? 207 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,000 What do you need from the family? 208 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 They're a wonderful family. 209 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 They're very sweet, nice people. 210 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 And they would be happy to help you. 211 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,000 They just don't know how. 212 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,000 We don't know how. 213 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,000 If there is something here, and it does need help, 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,000 it could have been reaching out to the sun rather than trying to scare the hell out of the sun. 215 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,000 The master bedroom is really the only place we have to check out up here. 216 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,000 A few different things that they claim are going on in here. 217 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,000 They claim to hear voices, noises. 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,000 I said we do some EVP work. 219 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Could you please tell us your name? 220 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Why are you here? 221 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Are you unhappy? 222 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,000 We just want to know your story. 223 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Do you hear that noise? 224 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,000 Mm-hmm. 225 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,000 It sounded like two knocks. 226 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 Where did you hear it coming from? 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Right out of here. 228 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,000 Yeah, it's in here. 229 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,000 If that was you trying to get our attention before we leave, 230 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,000 can you make those noises again? 231 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Steve and I came up to the master bedroom to investigate. 232 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:46,000 We checked everything out. 233 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 We did a really solid EVP session. 234 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Nothing really happened except for a few knocking noises that we can't place. 235 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,000 We'll have to review the evidence and see what we have. 236 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Grant and I headed straight downstairs to the basement. 237 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,000 There's been claims of loud bangs and just being terrified. 238 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Forced hot air? 239 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,000 Oh, yeah. 240 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Jay noticed the forced hot air system, which was all duct work. 241 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 What we did was a little sound test. 242 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:15,000 We hit the duct work. 243 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,000 We hid it in various different places and got a sense of how that sounded. 244 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And then we headed directly to the dryer. 245 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,000 It's exactly the same. 246 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:26,000 Yeah. 247 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,000 And it sounded almost identical. 248 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,000 And of course that always has a tendency to just pop and flex whenever the heat is on and off. 249 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Which sounds just like... 250 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Especially being upstairs. 251 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,000 Alright, so you want to do some K2 work? 252 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Mm-hmm. 253 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Jay and Grant. 254 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:47,000 basement. 255 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 While we were down there, we started trying to make contact using the K2 meter. 256 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,000 Is anyone in here? 257 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:55,000 Just looking to talk with you. 258 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,000 The K2 meter is a device designed to pick up magnetic fields and frequencies. 259 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,000 And it's theorized in this field that we can use this device to communicate with entities. 260 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:09,000 If you can approach the lights and let us know if you were the one that came close to the sun down here and touched his jacket. 261 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Wow. 262 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,000 Were you just trying to make contact? 263 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,000 If so, light up the lights. 264 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,000 Here you go. 265 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,000 Just trying to make contact. 266 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Is it only you here? 267 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,000 Are there other things here? 268 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Do you know what this thing is that made this growling noise of this family? 269 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,000 There you go. Thank you. 270 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Is this thing some sort of a creature? 271 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:55,000 Yes. 272 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000 Is it not human? 273 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,000 There you go. 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Inhuman entities are very, very rare. 275 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,000 They're stronger than a human entity. 276 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,000 They're more aggressive. 277 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 Inhumans just want you out of there or just wants to drive you mad. 278 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 Thank goodness we don't come across those very often. 279 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Alright. 280 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Is this thing here? 281 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Is it some sort of an evil entity? 282 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,000 All this subtle activity and then all of a sudden it kicks up and it's pushing things around. 283 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 It sounds like it could be the start of something. 284 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Of something negative trying to sit down here. 285 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 He's probably scared as heck if that's what's going on. 286 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000 Here we go. 287 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,000 This K2 session led us in a direction that potentially there are cemented ease here. 288 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 But recently something negative had come in. 289 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:53,000 Kind of using them or pushing them around or maybe trying to take over the space for some reason. 290 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,000 Do you want to move on? 291 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Are you being held here? 292 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,000 Yes. 293 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,000 Yeah. 294 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Okay. 295 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,000 I understand you. 296 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:09,000 That's great. 297 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,000 But it's being held here. 298 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Against their... 299 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,000 What? 300 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Boom. 301 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,000 Yeah. 302 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,000 Being held here. 303 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,000 Against their will. 304 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:24,000 I do ask that you and anything that's like you and stays away from Grant and I tonight. 305 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 We're going to try to tick this thing off. 306 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 It's not going to be happy. 307 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 I want everybody away. 308 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Do you understand that? 309 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Okay. 310 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Back away. 311 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,000 I have just a couple more questions for you. 312 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 I want to know where this thing enters this home. 313 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Does it enter the home down here? 314 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,000 Does it enter the home in the foyer in the front? 315 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:59,000 Does it enter the home in the crawl space upstairs? 316 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Holy crap! 317 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,000 Lower it down. 318 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 Did you hear that? 319 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,000 It's a growl. 320 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Is that just a growl? 321 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Wow, man, they're so big that like hemorrhage. 322 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,000 Wow. 323 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Did you hear that? 324 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,000 No, for the growl. 325 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,000 Is that just a growl? 326 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:46,000 Grant and I were getting ready to enter a crawl space in search of a possible inhuman spirit. 327 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,000 Shhh, open. 328 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Okay. 329 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Did you hear that? 330 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 No, for the growl. 331 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Is that just a growl? 332 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 We opened the crawl space right behind Roxanne's bed. 333 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,000 We heard what sounded like some type of growl. 334 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,000 Hopefully it was the same thing that Roxanne had heard and hopefully we got it on tape. 335 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,000 The deucer house, crawl space, trying to push out the demon. 336 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Oh, how does it feel to have someone invade a little space? 337 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,000 A demon is pretty much something that hasn't walked the earth in human form. 338 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,000 They're very strong, very rare. 339 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,000 They can throw someone around a room, move heavy pieces of furniture, and it can't be reasoned with. 340 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 Mon, we're coming in. 341 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,000 Taking over. 342 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,000 You're not the boss here anymore. 343 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,000 Everybody here is sick and tired of your bull crap. 344 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,000 You gonna come out? You gonna show yourself? 345 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 Push us around. Throw something at us. 346 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Guess you're just a lousy little punk. 347 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 I don't know where they're at. 348 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000 What is that noise? 349 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,000 I don't know. 350 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Oh, we heard all different sorts of footsteps and noises from in there. 351 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,000 And as we were in there, we were really trying to provoke. 352 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,000 Something back there doesn't have the gonads to step out. 353 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 Come on. This is stupid. 354 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,000 We just lost a video camera. 355 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,000 Did you just totally die? 356 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,000 No, we still got 11 minutes to take. 357 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Sometimes when we're investigating the batteries in our equipment will drain down temporarily. 358 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:32,000 The theory is that an entity can draw from the energy in the battery, as long as that battery is in a device and it's on. 359 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,000 I can't have muscles just got like ice, coal. 360 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,000 Ice, coal? 361 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,000 No, it's not cold anymore. That was really hot. 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:52,000 Hot? All of a sudden my right calf muscle area got extremely cold. 363 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:57,000 Almost as if somebody was holding ice to it and then instantly changed to extremely hot. 364 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,000 And then just started stinging. 365 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:04,000 Wow. I think I'm scratched. 366 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 And it appears that I've got scratch marks. 367 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Running down my actual calf muscle. 368 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,000 What the freak man, are you alright? 369 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,000 There were some scratches on his leg and you could see them raising. 370 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Like little razor blades. 371 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,000 Oh my gosh, dude, it actually broke your skin. 372 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,000 It appears that I've got five pretty good scratch marks. 373 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,000 But honestly, if it was inhuman, I'd expect a hell of a lot more. 374 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Yeah, I think something weird is going on here. 375 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:34,000 Five scratches while it is disturbing as far as inhuman activity goes. 376 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000 It's not much. 377 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Had it been a true inhuman entity, we would have had a high temperature. 378 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 We would have had a nasty stench. 379 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Growling, things moving, we would have had several things thrown at us. 380 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:49,000 I wonder if we got some human prankster spirit that's trying to pass himself off as a dean. 381 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Because I had to suck all the energy out to freaking do that. 382 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 Now if it was inhuman, I would expect a lot more than that. 383 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:00,000 I think whatever it here is, I want you to think that it's inhuman. 384 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,000 Just to keep people away. 385 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000 We're going to tell this family how to get rid of you. 386 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Then you'll be gone. 387 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Let's get out of here. 388 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,000 All right. 389 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Tonight has been very interesting. 390 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,000 The whole case is kind of morphed throughout the night. 391 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Steve, Tango, Chris, Amy, let's get plates on. 392 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 We're going to wrap. 393 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:25,000 At first I thought that we might have been dealing with an inhuman entity that was just starting to take interest in the place. 394 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:30,000 And then after a few more experiences, it seemed like maybe there wasn't anything negative there at all. 395 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,000 Maybe there was some kind of human entity that was trying to scare people. 396 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 Obviously the highlight of the night for us was we heard a voice. 397 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,000 We actually heard a disembodied voice in the room with us. 398 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:45,000 We did have some strange things that happened, but we need to also analyze all the evidence before we draw any conclusions. 399 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Because we need all the facts so we can try to find out what's truly happening. 400 00:19:55,000 --> 00:20:06,000 Tango and I are getting ready to review the evidence for the Leduser house. 401 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,000 And some of our investigators claim to have some things happen. 402 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 So we have to look out for all of that stuff. 403 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Hi Steve. 404 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 What's up Dave? 405 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,000 We were in the main grant upstairs and they were going to the crawl space and you hear a grant saying something and you kind of hear something. 406 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Like react to that. 407 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Really? 408 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,000 I reply. 409 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,000 Very good. 410 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Do me a favor. 411 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,000 That just the part where the voice is. 412 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,000 Yeah. 413 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,000 Do a hiss reduction. 414 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Okay. 415 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,000 And let's boost it. 416 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,000 Let's give it a 10 boost. 417 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Okay. 418 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000 Can we boost it again? 419 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Yep. 420 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Give it another 10. 421 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Listen to it now, it sounds much better. 422 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 You can hear some sort of voice in there. 423 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,000 Mine. 424 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,000 So that's what you got. 425 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Oh my god. 426 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 It sounds like words now. 427 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,000 It may not even be in English. 428 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,000 Hey Roxana. 429 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,000 It's good to see you. 430 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Hi. 431 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,000 Nice to see you. 432 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Thank you very much for coming back. 433 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,000 Well you know what we did. 434 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,000 We came in, you took us to the tour location and showed us the hotspots. 435 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,000 And from there we ended up setting up our equipment and just performing an investigation to the best of our ability. 436 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:30,000 Now we are looking for everything from the shadow that your son saw downstairs to whatever was creating this growling noise that your family has been hearing. 437 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:37,000 Of course we want to get to the bottom of what made the couch move on you, the bangs that you've heard and the general creepy feelings all over the place. 438 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,000 Right. 439 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,000 And that loud bang that sounded like it hit the side of the dryer. 440 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:45,000 Sounds exactly like if you hit the side of one of the vents of the four-state air system. 441 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,000 Okay. 442 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,000 The way those systems work is when it cools off. 443 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Right. 444 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,000 A lot of times it creates this loud bang. 445 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,000 Oh okay. 446 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,000 But we do have some interesting evidence we'd like to show you. 447 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,000 At one point Chris Williams and Amy Bruni were downstairs. 448 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,000 When all of a sudden they both heard what sounded like a voice. 449 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,000 They were lucky enough to have the digital recorder going in and they caught it. 450 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,000 So what I'd like to do is play that for you and get your impression. 451 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,000 See if it's something you guys have ever heard here. 452 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,000 Okay. 453 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Okay. 454 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,000 You okay first? 455 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,000 Yeah. 456 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,000 What was that? 457 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,000 You can hear Chris Williams heard it. 458 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,000 Right. 459 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,000 What was that? 460 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,000 I'll highlight that area for you. 461 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Okay. 462 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Can you make out what you think it's saying? 463 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,000 You can definitely, at the beginning, part of it. 464 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,000 You can hear it, please help or something. 465 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,000 Well, Chris believes that she heard, please help me. 466 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Let you listen to it again. 467 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Wow. 468 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Wow. 469 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:50,000 That's pretty close to what our next door neighbor said it was almost like a whispering like 470 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,000 that. 471 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,000 Really? 472 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,000 Okay. 473 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Yeah. 474 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,000 So, exactly. 475 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Yeah. 476 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000 Okay. 477 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000 At one point we went into the crawl space behind your bed, which we know there are reports 478 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,000 in that area. 479 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Right. 480 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,000 The door opened on its own and the light was on. 481 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,000 I had my back facing towards the end of the crawl space. 482 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Okay. 483 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:13,000 My leg grant was in front of me near the door and instantly my calf muscle felt like it 484 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,000 got extremely cold. 485 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,000 And then as quick as I could say that, it started stinging. 486 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:24,000 So, quickly I pulled my pant leg up and you could see what appeared to be five scratch marks 487 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,000 that went across the side of my calf muscle. 488 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Our first reaction was that, okay, if something negative is trying to come in here and get 489 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000 a foothold in this house, we want to nip it in the butt. 490 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:45,000 As the night went on, we found out that probably something else is going on here. 491 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:50,000 As the night went on, we found out that probably something else is going on here. 492 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,000 We think that might be the human intelligent entity that's just being a jerk. 493 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,000 Oh, really? 494 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,000 We're opening ourselves up for personal attacks. 495 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,000 If it was an inhuman haunt, we've seen some serious things. 496 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,000 There's getting slain in the doors, things flying across the room at people. 497 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,000 None of that happened. 498 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,000 Normally, if you're on an inhuman case and that stuff happens, you know, the fridge 499 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,000 is going to come away from the wall or the table is going to flip. 500 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,000 Oh, really? 501 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000 This thing was trying to seem bigger than it really is. 502 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:21,000 It wants to intimidate us to just leave so it can go on doing whatever it's doing. 503 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000 And while we are up there, we were able to catch another recording, which we want you 504 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,000 to hear and get your thoughts on. 505 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Are you going to hear me? 506 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Goff and sniff. 507 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Okay. 508 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Wow. 509 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:40,000 It's a weird sound. 510 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,000 It really is. 511 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,000 That's strange. 512 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,000 Wow. 513 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:52,000 It almost sounds like it's just trying to scare you out of there somehow. 514 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Now, we have one more thing to show you. 515 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000 Jay and I are talking and the voice comes up and it almost sounds like there are two things 516 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,000 there. 517 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000 I'm going to go through this area. 518 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,000 Okay. 519 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 It's a whisper to hear. 520 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Yeah. 521 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,000 Yeah, I'll play it again. 522 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Yeah, it almost sounds like there's something a little bit deeper in there. 523 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Yeah, it doesn't even sound like it's speaking English. 524 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000 And Chris Williams doing research came up with something interesting. 525 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,000 She found that the second owner of the home is actually a German couple. 526 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,000 Oh, really? 527 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,000 Yeah. 528 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,000 And we know at some point a woman did die in the home. 529 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,000 As far as hearing the female voice, that could be it, could not, we don't know. 530 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,000 The woman's voice was distinct. 531 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,000 I mean, I know that was a woman. 532 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000 Maybe there is this entity that's been here all this whole time that you've been here 533 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,000 and this new guy comes in and he is controlling it. 534 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,000 You know, maybe he's pushing him around. 535 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,000 And so that might be where we get the please help me from the one that's been here for 536 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,000 a while. 537 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000 It does appear that you've got something going on here. 538 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 It appears to us as if it's a human type on. 539 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,000 It's really trying to be just a pain in the ass. 540 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Now there are some things you can do to try to resolve that issue. 541 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:08,000 And the one I like the most is as a family, you guys sit around the table and just say, 542 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,000 you know, this is our house. 543 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,000 We don't want you here. 544 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,000 You're bothering us. 545 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,000 You're scaring us. 546 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,000 We want you to leave. 547 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,000 And you need to just be stern. 548 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,000 You need to tell this thing it's not wanted. 549 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,000 You want your home back. 550 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,000 It'll be fine. 551 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,000 And you know what? 552 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,000 We're always here. 553 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,000 So when you need that moral support, whatever you contact us will help you through it. 554 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Great. 555 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,000 You know that. 556 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,000 Yeah, I appreciate that. 557 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,000 And I appreciate you guys coming in really. 558 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,000 You're a sweetheart. 559 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,000 Thanks. 560 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Thank you. 561 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,000 We'll be in for you. 562 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,000 Great. 563 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,000 All right, come on. 564 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Let's get out of here. 565 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 Thanks. 566 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,000 Okay. 567 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,000 By Jane and Grant and the TAPS team coming to the house, it was such a relief just 568 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,000 to know that I'm safe and it's very reassuring for us to know that there's going to hopefully 569 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,000 be a conclusion to all of this. 570 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Well, I think Roxanne took that very well, man. 571 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,000 I think it's neat how she's starting to get in that mentality where I'm putting her 572 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,000 behind her box and gloves and ready to rock. 573 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,000 That was awesome, man. 574 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 Well, you know, like usual, good job, man. 575 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Yeah. 576 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,000 On to the next. 577 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,000 Oh, man, to be back in Virginia. 578 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Yeah, it's beautiful down here, especially this place we're checking out at Brentsville 579 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Historical Center. 580 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Hey, let me find out what the claims that are going on there. 581 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Hey, Chris. 582 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 Hey, Jay. 583 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 What's some of the claims that are going on here? 584 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,000 They've seen several full-body apparitions, one they believe to be a woman named Agnes. 585 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,000 She was a slave who was hanged from murder. 586 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,000 Supposedly she murdered her master with a butcher knife. 587 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 There's also an apparition they believe to be the ghost of Robert Clark. 588 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:38,000 He was imprisoned and accused of trying to abduct a local woman. 589 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,000 They've had objects move. 590 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,000 They've had cold bursts of air blow through buildings for no reason. 591 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,000 Everybody seems to believe that it goes back to 13 people who are executed on the grounds. 592 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,000 All right, guys. 593 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,000 Well, this sounds like an awesome case. 594 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Let's get over there and find out what's going on. 595 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,000 This is going to be good. 596 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,000 Hey, Robert. 597 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Hey, I'm Jason. 598 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,000 Hey, Jason. 599 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I'm Robert Orson. 600 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 I'm a big skeptic on paranormal activity and ghost stories. 601 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 So it'd be interesting to see if I get proved wrong. 602 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,000 Some of the stories I don't really believe in, but it'd be nice to see it get some time. 603 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,000 It'd be nice to see it get some scientific evidence and proof on what's been going on here. 604 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,000 So what's some of the history here? 605 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,000 Well, Rensville, Virginia was founded in 1820 as a courthouse town for Prince William County. 606 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,000 By 1850, around 500 people living here. 607 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 We have several original buildings here at our park. 608 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 No deep history here, actually. 609 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Good Virginia history. 610 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,000 Well, now we hear you have paranormal activity going on here. 611 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Yes. 612 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:39,000 The residents here in the area have been reporting activity here ever since probably 50, 60 years ago, 613 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,000 back from the stories we have. 614 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Wow. 615 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 In the courthouse here, people have seen faces in windows. 616 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,000 Are there particular windows that are notorious for the faces? 617 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,000 One in particular is one upstairs in the judge's office. 618 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,000 You want to show us the windows? 619 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Sure, follow me. 620 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,000 All right. 621 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Well, the face that people have seen on numerous occasions was shown up right here in this bottom window pane. 622 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000 So people outside would look up here and see someone looking down at it. 623 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Yes. 624 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,000 Can they describe the face? 625 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Some people say it's a gentleman, rest in the gentleman's outfit, 19th century. 626 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,000 Some people say it's just the outline of a face. 627 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,000 Okay. 628 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,000 Okay, where to now? 629 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,000 Actually, the building next door is the jail, and that's the building that has most of our activity and most of the stories. 630 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:18,000 So we'll head over there. 631 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,000 I have to you. 632 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:28,000 I was walking on the sidewalk between the jail and the courthouse, and I saw a black woman's face looking out from the door. 633 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:33,000 I looked away and then I looked back quickly, and there wasn't anything there anymore. 634 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 Not recently refurbished. 635 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,000 All right, so this is the old jail, huh? 636 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Yes, sir. 637 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,000 This was the room that Mr. Roto Fuel came in and shot James Clark and shot him right here in this room. 638 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000 This is where people are hearing voices. 639 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:59,000 They've heard a male voice in this room always sounding angry when he says get out. 640 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,000 He's called a few women derogatory names and angry voice as well. 641 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,000 All right. 642 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,000 So where are you next? 643 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000 Well, we can go upstairs and I'll talk about some of the other stories that we know about that we've been hearing. 644 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,000 All right, sounds good. 645 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,000 FTF. 646 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 All right, so what goes on in here? 647 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Well, this is one of the original cells. 648 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 You can see how small and tight it is. 649 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,000 People saw premonitions in the windows, missed. 650 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000 We came down to see the jail. 651 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 It was about 8.30 in the evening. 652 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,000 I went up to the window and I started peering in to see if I could see anything. 653 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:36,000 And then all of a sudden out of just the middle of nowhere, this gray, dense blob just started moving across the room. 654 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,000 And it went out into the hallway. 655 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:44,000 I don't know what I saw, but whatever it was, it was quite scary. 656 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,000 All right, well, what we're going to do from here is go talk to the rest of the crew and start getting the equipment set up. 657 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,000 See what we can get for you. 658 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Sounds good. 659 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Thanks for everything. 660 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,000 Thank you. 661 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,000 Thanks, Robert. 662 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,000 It's gonna be fun. 663 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,000 Thanks, Robert. 664 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Nice to meet you. 665 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000 We'll head back. 666 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Cases that have a lot of visual claims make it very difficult for us because usually they're very rare and they're only reported once a year maybe. 667 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,000 And for us to be in the right spot at the right time is tough. 668 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,000 All right, so we still need a camera for the stairs? 669 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Yes. 670 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,000 And that's it? 671 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,000 So what we have to do is we have to go in, tackle the other claims, see if we can debunk them or capture them, 672 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 and just hope our cameras are pointed in the right direction at the right time. 673 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,000 Hey guys. 674 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,000 How's it going? 675 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Yeah, we're all set. 676 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Let me show you these camera angles. 677 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,000 Camera one is the outside of the house. 678 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000 This is the window that they claim they see the face come to. 679 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000 Camera two is inside the actual courthouse and this is that small office room. 680 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,000 Yep. 681 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:45,000 The third camera, now this is actually the first jail cell that he brought us into where the guy was shot. 682 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,000 So we have that. 683 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:47,000 Those are our cameras. 684 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000 All right guys, let's do this. 685 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,000 Jay and I headed into the jail just to do our general sweep and see if we could drum up. 686 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,000 Yeah, let's do it. 687 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,000 Let's drum up. 688 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,000 Man, a second. 689 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Hang on real quick. 690 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Well, initially I got a thermal head which was very much the shape of a person. 691 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000 They opened up the door. 692 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,000 What? 693 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,000 What is that? 694 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,000 What the frick? 695 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,000 I think we may have caught something right there. 696 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,000 Hang on a second. 697 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,000 Hang on real quick. 698 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:43,000 When Grant and I headed into the old jail, initially I got a thermal head which was very much the shape of a person. 699 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,000 It's weird how it's there all the way up until we come through the door and then it goes away. 700 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,000 It was a weird image. 701 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,000 It was almost as if it was embedded into the thermal imaging camera. 702 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,000 The camera paused for a brief second and the image was gone as quick as it's showing up. 703 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,000 Almost like an image is burned onto it, you know? 704 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:05,000 Look, I'm really not sure what to make of that but we'll have to analyze it later. 705 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,000 Alright, wireless is placed, mini-DV is loaded, ready to rock and roll. 706 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Grant and I decided to head up to the second floor. 707 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,000 Ready? 708 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,000 Yeah. 709 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,000 Did you hear it? 710 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,000 It sounded like footsteps in the next room over. 711 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,000 Alright, be careful over here. 712 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,000 This floor is... 713 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Wow. 714 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,000 I know, I feel like I'm going to fall through it. 715 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,000 Yeah. 716 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,000 Serious fun house effect in here. 717 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Everything's crooked. 718 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Hello? 719 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,000 It's constant, just a very slow pace with them. 720 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,000 What is that? 721 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000 I don't know. 722 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,000 While we were up there we kept hearing footsteps as if somebody was walking around in a room next to us or above us. 723 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Is that bump again? 724 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000 Is there anyone in here with us? 725 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,000 Is something going off? 726 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,000 No, I'm just trying to find that bump. 727 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,000 It just happened again. 728 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000 There it is. 729 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000 Oh, I just heard it in here. 730 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Oh, wait a minute. 731 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,000 Did you just hear that? 732 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Come here. 733 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,000 That was up there. 734 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000 I really thought it was, it sounds like it's coming from up there. 735 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,000 Hello? 736 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,000 There it is again. 737 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,000 My name is Grant, this is Jason. 738 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000 Can you tell us what you want us to do? 739 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,000 Do you want us to get out? 740 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Can you knock again? 741 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,000 That was above us. 742 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,000 One, two. 743 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Alright. 744 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,000 I left a grant up there to try to see if anything was going on up there. 745 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,000 What the heck is that? 746 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Where's it coming from? 747 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000 It's coming from over this room over here. 748 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,000 He had the infrared camera and was looking around but there was absolutely nothing there. 749 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Amy and I started investigating the courthouse. 750 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,000 The reports in here is that people from the outside can see faces in the windows, 751 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,000 especially up in the judge's office. 752 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Okay, so this is the judge's office and they'll see a face of an African-American woman just looking out the window. 753 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,000 His windows don't look old or anything. 754 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000 No, no more things. 755 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,000 My name is Chris and this is Amy. 756 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,000 We're not here to hurt you in any way, we just want to talk to you. 757 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:39,000 We've been told that people have seen a male and a female in here. 758 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,000 We'd like to talk to anybody who'd like to talk to us. 759 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Are you guilty? 760 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 We heard you were. 761 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,000 What did they say you were guilty of? 762 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000 Why do you stay in the judge's office? 763 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Why do you stay in this room? 764 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,000 At one point, Chris had the idea that we could split up. 765 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:09,000 That way both of us could keep our eyes out from different vantage points of the courthouse in case we saw anything. 766 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,000 So if you are not guilty, this is it. 767 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,000 This is your last chance to tell us. 768 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,000 I don't want to do this but I'm going to have to tell my friends that you're guilty. 769 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,000 You could be going out to the gallows. 770 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000 You know Amy, we've been in here for quite a while. 771 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000 It's been so quiet in here. 772 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,000 We had our camera go in the entire time so hopefully there'll be something on that. 773 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:39,000 And we did a lot of EVP work and we had our recorder go in the whole time so who knows what we might come up with. 774 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,000 Here we go Dave. 775 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000 So what happened in here Steve? 776 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Now this is the cell where the gentleman was shot. 777 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,000 The guy was in here. His name was James Clark. 778 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Supposedly he kidnapped somebody by the name of Fanny, a girl. 779 00:36:54,000 --> 00:37:00,000 And I guess the brother was outraged and came like this. 780 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000 He said, this is that... 781 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000 Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop. 782 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,000 He thought I'm dead. 783 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,000 Man. 784 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000 James, are you in here with us? 785 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,000 We'd really like to talk to you. 786 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,000 We're not here to judge you for any crimes. 787 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000 You know what is strange in here? 788 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 What? 789 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000 My ears and my head have a ringing in it. 790 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,000 I mentioned to him, do you think it could be the gunshots that happen in here? 791 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,000 I mean I'm just going on a limb but who knows? 792 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,000 Is it a residual haunting? 793 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,000 I mean what's going on here? 794 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,000 Maybe that's the last thing he heard. 795 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Or maybe that's what his last two or three minutes of his life was like. 796 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000 Yeah, you hear that. 797 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,000 Just that loud ringing in his head, wondering what's going on and slowly he drifts back 798 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000 from reality and passes away. 799 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000 James, who are you telling to get out? 800 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Who do you want to get out of your prison cell? 801 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 Are you angry at Fanny's brother? 802 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Let's grab our equipment from this room. 803 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Look at that mini-DV. 804 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 What's the matter? 805 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Big-ass yellow jacket. 806 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Oh, a bee? 807 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,000 Yeah, a bee right there. 808 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,000 Alive. 809 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,000 I'm expecting no bugs. 810 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,000 I look to my right and see a huge yellow jacket. 811 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,000 If there's one just chilling here, that means there's a little nest somewhere. 812 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,000 A nest, yeah. 813 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Hey guys. 814 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,000 Yeah, I think it's time to wrap it up. 815 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,000 I had an experience that I've never really had before on an investigation. 816 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,000 My ears were ringing. 817 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000 I've been doing this for over 15 years and I've never experienced that. 818 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,000 So I'm not sure what to make of it. 819 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,000 All right, Dave. 820 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 All right. 821 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,000 So let's hop right into it and start reviewing. 822 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,000 All right. 823 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Hey, Tango. 824 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,000 I'm all set over here. 825 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 But I do want to take a look at that thermal on the big screen here. 826 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,000 So that we can figure out what this is. 827 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,000 It shows up right there. 828 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,000 I almost think it could be Jason's reflection on the house. 829 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000 You know what I mean? 830 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000 Is it right in the middle, right there? 831 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Yeah. 832 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000 Oh, I see. 833 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,000 But it continues. 834 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,000 You'll see. 835 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000 Oh, yeah. 836 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,000 Every time the thermal moves, it goes with it. 837 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,000 I'm going to go through it. 838 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,000 I'm going to go through it. 839 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 I'm going to go through it. 840 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 I'm going to go through it. 841 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Every time the thermal moves, it goes with it. 842 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,000 And then as soon as the camera freezes it, it disappears. 843 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,000 And I also have the production footage here. 844 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,000 So you're syncing up the production footage with thermal. 845 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,000 Yeah. 846 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000 Is it OK? 847 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000 So here's both of them. 848 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,000 All right. 849 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000 And I'm just sort of isolated J. 850 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,000 Uh-huh. 851 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,000 And see if they match. 852 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:55,000 The double check. 853 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,000 Just a double check. 854 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,000 And see, I mean, it's a step we can take to see what's happening. 855 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,000 Here's the actual thermal. 856 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 So there's the figure. 857 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000 And now watch. 858 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000 There's the back of J. 859 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:13,000 I mean, it doesn't look like Jason to me at all. 860 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Yeah. 861 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,000 I don't know. 862 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,000 I don't know. 863 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,000 For me, it doesn't look like him. 864 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000 You know what? 865 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,000 Maybe it's not Jason. 866 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,000 Maybe it isn't. 867 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000 It's cool, though. 868 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,000 It still leaves us with the, you know, what is it? 869 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,000 What is it, man? 870 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,000 Mm-hmm. 871 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Hey, Robert, how you been? 872 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,000 Hey, been good. 873 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000 How you guys been? 874 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,000 Good seeing you. 875 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Good seeing you. 876 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,000 Well, you know what we did? 877 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000 We came in, you gave us a tour of the location, 878 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,000 and showed us the hotspots. 879 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,000 From there, we set up our equipment 880 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,000 and started the investigation. 881 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,000 J and I headed into the jail first. 882 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,000 We decided we're going to go up to the second floor 883 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000 and just try to talk and get anything to respond to us 884 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,000 while we were there. 885 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,000 A few times throughout the night, 886 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000 there would be knocks in direct response 887 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,000 to questions that we'd ask. 888 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Most of the sounds were coming from right below 889 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,000 the entrance to the attic. 890 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,000 And during the night, we'd also hear footsteps 891 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 and things like that that sounded like 892 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 they were coming from the attic. 893 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000 We looked up there. 894 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,000 There was nothing there to explain it. 895 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Throughout the night, most of the experiences that were had 896 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,000 were had in the old jail. 897 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000 One of our investigator, Steve, was in there. 898 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,000 And Steve, all of a sudden, when he walked into 899 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000 where the gentleman was shot, 900 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,000 his ears started ringing really loud. 901 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Right. 902 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,000 And when he would leave the room, it would stop instantly. 903 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000 Which is very odd because when you have that ring in your ears, 904 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000 it usually just lasts and lasts until it slowly fades out 905 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000 for it to come and go. 906 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000 That kind of stuff doesn't happen to Steve. 907 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,000 You know, there's that room downstairs, though. 908 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000 The room is right there. 909 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,000 You're shot in, okay. 910 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,000 Exactly. 911 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000 Another thing we had happen is, 912 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,000 while we were heading over to the jail, 913 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,000 we were using a thermal imaging camera 914 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,000 which picks up heat signatures 915 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000 about 30 feet away from the building. 916 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,000 There appeared to be some sort of a human-type form, 917 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,000 but it was more burnt into the lens of the camera, 918 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000 which is the first time I've ever had that happen. 919 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Now, we use the thermal imaging camera 920 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 enough to know that this image is out of the ordinary 921 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,000 and something we've never come across. 922 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Watch, we'll show you. 923 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 As you can see, there it is starting to show up. 924 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,000 You see this image here? 925 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,000 It's starting to show up. 926 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,000 Keep watching that. 927 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,000 See, that's why we say it's burned in 928 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,000 because it moves with the camera. 929 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,000 It's there, and then all of a sudden, 930 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,000 the camera's freezing. 931 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,000 It's gone. 932 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,000 Huh. 933 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,000 Really don't know what to make of it. 934 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,000 It's strange. 935 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,000 So throughout the night, we caught the knocking. 936 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,000 You know, we caught the thermal hit. 937 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,000 I honestly think before I sat across from you 938 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,000 and said, I believe this place to be haunted, 939 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,000 we definitely have to come back 940 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,000 and try to gather more evidence over time. 941 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,000 Okay. 942 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,000 The place is really interesting 943 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,000 and it's got such a history to it. 944 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,000 It stands a high potential 945 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,000 to actually have activity going on. 946 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,000 I really appreciate you guys coming out. 947 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:54,000 All right. 948 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,000 Thanks. 949 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,000 Thank you very much. 950 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,000 Thank you. 951 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000 Thank you very much. 952 00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,000 Well, it was interesting. 953 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,000 I think they couldn't debunk any of the stories 954 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,000 that were told. 955 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,000 I'm a big skeptic, but the fact they can't explain it 956 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,000 just really makes those people's claims 957 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,000 and their stories seem a little bit more worthy 958 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000 and incredible. 959 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,000 Well, that went well. 960 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000 I think Robert realized that we weren't sitting there 961 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000 saying this location was haunted. 962 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 We're basing it on our investigation. 963 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,000 Right. 964 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,000 He hasn't had his own experiences there. 965 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Other than that, it's a great place. 966 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000 They're doing an incredible job restoring it. 967 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,000 And who's to say that while they're restoring it, 968 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,000 some crazy things are not going to start now. 969 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,000 Let's see if he calls us up saying, 970 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,000 hey, some stuff's happening here. 971 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,000 Yeah, get back here. 972 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:33,000 Check this out. 973 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,000 Any tips? 974 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,000 All in all, brother, another good case. 975 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Yeah. 976 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,000 Let's get back to Rue Allen. 977 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,000 Okay.